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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:18 pm
Ibanez wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:55 am

One thing I haven't seen is any scientific or fact based reason for re-opening at this point, at least not in SC. It's all public sentiment driven. I haven't seen any report where we have seen a decrease in infections/deaths to suggest the country has reached its peaked. SC has. Our Gov has said that "data and science" are guiding him. But when pressed he couldn't give any details. Rather he pointed to "common sense" and compliance with social distancing. He's hoping people don't fall back into their normal patterns of NOT socially distancing themselves. He's expecting people to carry on like before. :ohno: :dunce:

Charlotte announced yesterday that they expect it to peak in late June. So I don't expect to go back into the office until at least July.
Who said that? IHME said the state of NC peaked 5 days ago.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-s ... h-carolina
BTW, according to that data, SC has peaked 2x. So have we really peaked or are we just waiting for the next influx of patients to come in due to re-opening? I'm willing to bet we get a third peak. Their own model even suggests that we can see up to that peak level in the next 3 weeks. :coffee:
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Its funny how "The government" can't tell people what to do with their bodies right now...

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Chizzang wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:34 am Its funny how "The government" can't tell people what to do with their bodies right now...

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SC Gov. Henry McMaster has announced that schools in South Carolina will remain closed for the rest of the year.

Anyone else having school closed for the year?
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:20 am SC Gov. Henry McMaster has announced that schools in South Carolina will remain closed for the rest of the year.

Anyone else having school closed for the year?
Maryland hanging on for dear life. Not sure why. They've already pushed to May 15... no way they're going back for a couple weeks.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:20 am SC Gov. Henry McMaster has announced that schools in South Carolina will remain closed for the rest of the year.

Anyone else having school closed for the year?
But isn't the next state south reopening for business this week? Do Georgians have a natural immunity? I'm so confused.
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89Hen wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:22 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:20 am SC Gov. Henry McMaster has announced that schools in South Carolina will remain closed for the rest of the year.

Anyone else having school closed for the year?
Maryland hanging on for dear life. Not sure why. They've already pushed to May 15... no way they're going back for a couple weeks.
Yeah, I wish you all would go ahead and cancel. Carney is so confused right now. PA canceled but Maryland hasn't. He's not sure who to follow, since he doesn't have one ounce of leadership in his sad body.
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93henfan wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:24 am
89Hen wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:22 am

Maryland hanging on for dear life. Not sure why. They've already pushed to May 15... no way they're going back for a couple weeks.
Yeah, I wish you all would go ahead and cancel. Carney is so confused right now. PA canceled but Maryland hasn't. He's not sure who to follow, since he doesn't have one ounce of leadership in his sad body.
My daughter is fully expecting to not go back. What sucks is she is leaving her school this year and she has TONS of shit in her classroom that she needs to get. And by "she needs to get" I mean, I need to get. :evil:
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:53 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:18 pm
Who said that? IHME said the state of NC peaked 5 days ago.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-s ... h-carolina
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/ ... 55366.html
Mecklenburg Public Health Director Gibbie Harris previously said a surge would hit the region between mid-April and mid-May. But last week, Harris announced a June 8 peak was more likely, based on modeling that showed residents had begun to flatten the curve amid social distancing restrictions.
Charlotte-Meck takes into account the SC counties which it not only borders but considers part of their Metro-area. York, Lancaster and Chester Counties (and possibly Cherokee) have many many residents which go into Charlotte every single day. So while NC might have peaked as a whole b/c you're taking into to the bumfuck counties like Hoke, Scotland or Transylvania with small populations and even smaller levels of commerce and traffic as compared to Raleigh or Charlotte, I can see how a major city in the state would still be peaking on it's own. :twocents:

Weren't you bitching about the IHME last week? Now you're using their data to try and refute me? :dunce: Pick a side and stick with it, BDK.
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Yep. The IHME predictions have proven to be garbage. Yet their's isn't even as bad as some of these other models that some states are using that have shown to be even more garbage. Its like you have a football site who's in game and post game stats are good, but their predictions are garbage.
A peak that has already happened is like an in game or post game stat. Easy to show a peak after its happened.

Is anyone else in the entire country besides this Mecklenberg guy saying they are going to have peak deaths in June? :suspicious:
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:48 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:53 am
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/ ... 55366.html


Charlotte-Meck takes into account the SC counties which it not only borders but considers part of their Metro-area. York, Lancaster and Chester Counties (and possibly Cherokee) have many many residents which go into Charlotte every single day. So while NC might have peaked as a whole b/c you're taking into to the bumfuck counties like Hoke, Scotland or Transylvania with small populations and even smaller levels of commerce and traffic as compared to Raleigh or Charlotte, I can see how a major city in the state would still be peaking on it's own. :twocents:

Weren't you bitching about the IHME last week? Now you're using their data to try and refute me? :dunce: Pick a side and stick with it, BDK.

Reading is fundamental. :dunce:
Yep. The IHME predictions have proven to be garbage. Yet their's isn't even as bad as some of these other models that some states are using that have shown to be even more garbage. Its like you have a football site who's in game and post game stats are good, but their predictions are garbage.
A peak that has already happened is like an in game or post game stat. Easy to show a peak after its happened.

Is anyone else in the entire country besides this Mecklenberg guy saying they are going to have peak deaths in June? :suspicious:
Reading is fundamental. Look at the bolded, large print.

You can't call the IHME predictions garbage and then say someone is wrong b/c the IHME said it peaked. Which is it, BDK? Do you trust the model or not? Of course actual facts vs predictions aren't going to tic-and-tie. But to say the IHME says it's peaked and then calling them garbage is talking out both sides your mouth.

Mecklenburg is the county not the person reporting. Why don't you go county for county see when individual counties in America will have their peaks.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:55 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:48 am
Reading is fundamental. :dunce:


A peak that has already happened is like an in game or post game stat. Easy to show a peak after its happened.

Is anyone else in the entire country besides this Mecklenberg guy saying they are going to have peak deaths in June? :suspicious:
Reading is fundamental. Look at the bolded, large print.

You can't call the IHME predictions garbage and then say someone is wrong b/c the IHME said it peaked. Which is it, BDK? Do you trust the model or not?
They’re showing #s that have already happened. If the #s are going downward, then the peak is obvious. Not a prediction, but showing the score.
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93henfan wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:23 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:20 am SC Gov. Henry McMaster has announced that schools in South Carolina will remain closed for the rest of the year.

Anyone else having school closed for the year?
But isn't the next state south reopening for business this week? Do Georgians have a natural immunity? I'm so confused.
Georgia and SC are starting to re-open.

Though various mayors are saying no. The mayors of Sullivan's Is, Isle of Palms and Folly Beach will not reopen the beaches.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:00 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:55 am
Reading is fundamental. Look at the bolded, large print.

You can't call the IHME predictions garbage and then say someone is wrong b/c the IHME said it peaked. Which is it, BDK? Do you trust the model or not?
They’re showing #s that have already happened. If the #s are going downward, then the peak is obvious. Not a prediction, but showing the score.
But we know the numbers aren't to be trusted - which is the crux of the argument as to why IHME is "garbage." The data is skewed. So we really don't know when the peak is/will be.

CA just did autopsies and found 2 people that died in February from the 'Rona. New deaths/info is coming in daily. I would also go to say that the locals on the ground, seeing the numbers in real time, MIGHT have more of a clue than modelers who haven't stepped foot in Meck County and probably don't have Real Time data.
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93henfan wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:24 am
89Hen wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:22 am

Maryland hanging on for dear life. Not sure why. They've already pushed to May 15... no way they're going back for a couple weeks.
Yeah, I wish you all would go ahead and cancel. Carney is so confused right now. PA canceled but Maryland hasn't. He's not sure who to follow, since he doesn't have one ounce of leadership in his sad body.
Our gov cancelled for this school year last week. Even if we could go back for a couple weeks she can't win. People are making this so partisan that if we had one school with an outbreak they would have crucified her for trying to kill kids. Right now we're hoping to figure out a way to at least have graduation.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:20 am SC Gov. Henry McMaster has announced that schools in South Carolina will remain closed for the rest of the year.

Anyone else having school closed for the year?
PA closed and it was the right decision - nothing to be gained from having kids go back for a few weeks. Frankly, my kids are getting better education right now being at home with my wife (who's a teacher) and is able to see what they're doing. Is tough, my oldest lost a season of high school baseball and various concerts and trips, my middle guy lost a season of track, and my middle and youngest are in the last years at their schools (middle school and elementary respectively) so they're missing out on those life events of graduating from schools. Not as bad as high school or college seniors, but still something.

Good decision at this point not to go back to school - very little gets done in late May/early June anyway. And for the high school kids, all AP tests are online this year so they can do those from home anyway.
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Yay! Secession!!! I’ve heard Snohomish and Pierce Counties are doing the same.

“Franklin County is back open for business.

The unanimous decision Tuesday by the three county commissioners defies Washington Gov. Jay Inslee’s stay-at-home order, which is in effect till May 4th.

“As far as I’m concerned the county is open, and I’d encourage people within the law and within the parameters of their own safety — we’re adults, we can make decisions — to behave accordingly. That’s what I’m doing,” said Commissioner Brad Peck”

Read more here: https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/cor ... rylink=cpy


https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/cor ... 78586.html
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kalm wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:11 am Yay! Secession!!! I’ve heard Snohomish and Pierce Counties are doing the same.

“Franklin County is back open for business.

The unanimous decision Tuesday by the three county commissioners defies Washington Gov. Jay Inslee’s stay-at-home order, which is in effect till May 4th.

“As far as I’m concerned the county is open, and I’d encourage people within the law and within the parameters of their own safety — we’re adults, we can make decisions — to behave accordingly. That’s what I’m doing,” said Commissioner Brad Peck”

Read more here: https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/cor ... rylink=cpy


https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/cor ... 78586.html
Unfortunately adults that are most likely to defy orders are the ones least likely to behave like adults. :nod:

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mainejeff wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:37 am Unfortunately adults that are most likely to defy orders are the ones least likely to behave like adults. :nod:

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Just adding some clarity to a confusing time:

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93henfan wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:23 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:20 am SC Gov. Henry McMaster has announced that schools in South Carolina will remain closed for the rest of the year.

Anyone else having school closed for the year?
But isn't the next state south reopening for business this week? Do Georgians have a natural immunity? I'm so confused.
Schools in Georgia have been operating via distance learning since they shut the doors. From what I understand, overall, it has been very successful. So successful that they are ending the school year on May 1st.
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Baldy wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:15 am
93henfan wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:23 am

But isn't the next state south reopening for business this week? Do Georgians have a natural immunity? I'm so confused.
Schools in Georgia have been operating via distance learning since they shut the doors. From what I understand, overall, it has been very successful. So successful that they are ending the school year on May 1st.
Sounds like somebody is spewing some bullshit. I can tell you from having two kids in school myself, our current system is not set up for distance learning to be effective.
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93henfan wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:18 am
Baldy wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:15 am
Schools in Georgia have been operating via distance learning since they shut the doors. From what I understand, overall, it has been very successful. So successful that they are ending the school year on May 1st.
Sounds like somebody is spewing some bullshit. I can tell you from having two kids in school myself, our current system is not set up for distance learning to be effective.
Every district is different. I've been impressed with my kid's district, and I have one kid at each level (one in high school, one in middle school, and one in elementary school). Heck, I've told my oldest that his chemistry class he's taking right now is almost set up the same way my organic chem class at Delawarewas set up (didn't realize back then I was being hosed on tuition via that manner! That darn Dr. Burmeister!). But overall, it's been pretty well done. They're even introducing Microsoft Teams this week so they're going to be able to do live teaching.

Of course, this sucks for poor kids who don't have the internet access or even the home environment to succeed in this new digital age, but I'm sure we'll deal with the inequality that results from all of this someday in the future. Remember, we're all in this together. :coffee:
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93henfan wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:18 am
Baldy wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:15 am
Schools in Georgia have been operating via distance learning since they shut the doors. From what I understand, overall, it has been very successful. So successful that they are ending the school year on May 1st.
Sounds like somebody is spewing some bullshit. I can tell you from having two kids in school myself, our current system is not set up for distance learning to be effective.
The internet providers here offer $5 or $10 per month high speed internet access if you have kids in school, plus the school systems in my area were handing out Chromebooks to kids who didn't have a computer they could use at home. Sounds like you have a shitty school system there.
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