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CitadelGrad wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:59 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:41 am

He got 6 months for burning a BLM banner.
So, let me get this straight. Burning a U.S. flag is speech protected by the 1A, but burning a BLM flag is punishable by imprisonment?
Enrique Tarrio, 37, pleaded guilty to destruction of property and attempted possession of a large-capacity ammunition feeding device.

Appearing through video in court on Monday, Tarrio apologised and said there was "no excuse" for his actions.

He will report to jail on 6 September to begin his 155 day sentence.

Prosecutors said that Tarrio and other members of the Proud Boys removed the banner from the historically black Asbury United Methodist Church in Washington DC on 12 December and set it ablaze.

The incident was a part of a pro-Trump demonstration in protest of Joe Biden's election win
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GannonFan wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:25 pm
CitadelGrad wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:59 pm

So, let me get this straight. Burning a U.S. flag is speech protected by the 1A, but burning a BLM flag is punishable by imprisonment?
No, that's not true. You can buy a BLM flag and you can burn it in protest and be protected by the 1A. You can't go onto private property, steal a BLM flag, and then later burn it. That's destruction of property. That and having in his possession illegally two large capacity ammunition clips. It's the details that got him. :thumb:
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GannonFan wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:25 pm
CitadelGrad wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:59 pm

So, let me get this straight. Burning a U.S. flag is speech protected by the 1A, but burning a BLM flag is punishable by imprisonment?
No, that's not true. You can buy a BLM flag and you can burn it in protest and be protected by the 1A. You can't go onto private property, steal a BLM flag, and then later burn it. That's destruction of property. That and having in his possession illegally two large capacity ammunition clips. It's the details that got him. :thumb:
Learned something new today that there were ammunition clips that hold more than 10 rounds. :shock:
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I think you mean magazines not clips. :D
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GannonFan wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:25 pm
CitadelGrad wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:59 pm

So, let me get this straight. Burning a U.S. flag is speech protected by the 1A, but burning a BLM flag is punishable by imprisonment?
No, that's not true. You can buy a BLM flag and you can burn it in protest and be protected by the 1A. You can't go onto private property, steal a BLM flag, and then later burn it. That's destruction of property. That and having in his possession illegally two large capacity ammunition clips. It's the details that got him. :thumb:
He didn’t have clips. He had 2 empty magazines..

Detals.. :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:45 pm
GannonFan wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:25 pm

No, that's not true. You can buy a BLM flag and you can burn it in protest and be protected by the 1A. You can't go onto private property, steal a BLM flag, and then later burn it. That's destruction of property. That and having in his possession illegally two large capacity ammunition clips. It's the details that got him. :thumb:
He didn’t have clips. He had 2 empty magazines..

Detals.. :coffee:
If that's the detail you are going to focus on (i.e. my swapping clips for the term magazine) then you are purposely avoiding the point. The other poster made the false connection that burning an American flag is legal but that burning a BLM flag is illegal. As I said, stealing someone else property (as this dude did - he clearly knew the flag was stolen from private property as he was there when it happened) and then burning it is destruction of property. Important details. :coffee:
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Winterborn wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:42 pm
GannonFan wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:25 pm

No, that's not true. You can buy a BLM flag and you can burn it in protest and be protected by the 1A. You can't go onto private property, steal a BLM flag, and then later burn it. That's destruction of property. That and having in his possession illegally two large capacity ammunition clips. It's the details that got him. :thumb:
Learned something new today that there were ammunition clips that hold more than 10 rounds. :shock:
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I think you mean magazines not clips. :D
Were those clips filled with assault bullets?
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GannonFan wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:25 pm
CitadelGrad wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:59 pm

So, let me get this straight. Burning a U.S. flag is speech protected by the 1A, but burning a BLM flag is punishable by imprisonment?
No, that's not true. You can buy a BLM flag and you can burn it in protest and be protected by the 1A. You can't go onto private property, steal a BLM flag, and then later burn it. That's destruction of property. That and having in his possession illegally two large capacity ammunition clips. It's the details that got him. :thumb:
I wonder how many U.S. flags were stolen from private property, then burned. I wonder how many people served time in prison for doing just that.

Six months for stealing and burning a BLM flag, while BLM and Antifa burned down large chunks of cities last summer. How many of them served time? How many were caught and released?
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GannonFan wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:31 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:45 pm
He didn’t have clips. He had 2 empty magazines..

Detals.. :coffee:
If that's the detail you are going to focus on (i.e. my swapping clips for the term magazine) then you are purposely avoiding the point. The other poster made the false connection that burning an American flag is legal but that burning a BLM flag is illegal. As I said, stealing someone else property (as this dude did - he clearly knew the flag was stolen from private property as he was there when it happened) and then burning it is destruction of property. Important details. :coffee:
My understanding of the reading of the article was that the jail time was because it was determined to be a hate crime.
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CitadelGrad wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:03 pm
GannonFan wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:25 pm

No, that's not true. You can buy a BLM flag and you can burn it in protest and be protected by the 1A. You can't go onto private property, steal a BLM flag, and then later burn it. That's destruction of property. That and having in his possession illegally two large capacity ammunition clips. It's the details that got him. :thumb:
I wonder how many U.S. flags were stolen from private property, then burned. I wonder how many people served time in prison for doing just that.

Six months for stealing and burning a BLM flag, while BLM and Antifa burned down large chunks of cities last summer. How many of them served time? How many were caught and released?
Apples to oranges a bit but here’s one example BLM sentencing. 46 months for brandishing a weapon. Sounds like they’ve been prosecuting both sides based on the available laws if that’s what you’re driving at.

“The Department of Justice stands firmly against anyone and everyone who seeks to instill terror and encourage violence,” said Acting U.S. Attorney Prerak Shah. “This sentence sends a clear message that our office will continue to work with our law enforcement partners to apprehend and charge all violent instigators, while protecting those who want to lawfully exercise their constitutional rights.”

“Together, our local, state, and federal partners work to protect those participating in legitimate, peaceful protests,” said FBI Dallas Special Agent in Charge Matthew J. DeSarno. “The intimidating and violent behavior exhibited by Mr. Quinones while individuals exercised their First Amendment rights has been swiftly answered with today’s sentence.”

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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:54 pm
GannonFan wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:31 pm

If that's the detail you are going to focus on (i.e. my swapping clips for the term magazine) then you are purposely avoiding the point. The other poster made the false connection that burning an American flag is legal but that burning a BLM flag is illegal. As I said, stealing someone else property (as this dude did - he clearly knew the flag was stolen from private property as he was there when it happened) and then burning it is destruction of property. Important details. :coffee:
My understanding of the reading of the article was that the jail time was because it was determined to be a hate crime.
How could it be a hate crime for a black latino to burn a flag of a self described Marxist group?

Sounds like selective prosecution. Those empty 30 round AR mags are legal in 40+ states. I would assume even in the states and DC where they’re not legal, possession of empty mags that have the capacity to carry too many rounds for liberals, is a misdemeanor.
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