Probably depends on the State. But that said if it opens up the State to lawsuits, it probably would fall under his discretion.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:20 amDoes the AG have discretion over enforcement?Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:06 am
Breaking the law is no excuse even if it is for "supposedly" the right reasons. You can:
a) Appeal if one feels that the ruling was wrong
b) Build support, and change the legislation
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“The best of all things is to learn. Money can be lost or stolen, health and strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.” – Louis L’Amour
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Don't know the lady. But not against meeting her either.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:23 amI’ve got someone right up your ally!Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:15 am
Unless you are a late 20's/early30's something conservative woman who likes the outdoors and has her ducks in a row, I will pass.![]()
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Nothing. I’ve known more than a few.
This guy is as much an entrepreneur as the kid selling meth in downtown Missoula. Maybe less.
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Hmm, this is interesting.
One is against the law and the other wasn't. Can't blame the guy for taking advantage of politicians writing crappy legislation. After all corporations and politicians do it all the time and even lobby for it.
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Aside from the law there’s also the moral angle of evading a public health measure.Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:30 amHmm, this is interesting.
One is against the law and the other wasn't. Can't blame the guy for taking advantage of politicians writing crappy legislation. After all corporations and politicians do it all the time and even lobby for it.
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What law? There is no law mentioned in the article and if there was one. Charge him, if not see my previous post about Missouri.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:49 amAside from the law there’s also the moral angle of evading a public health measure.Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:30 am
Hmm, this is interesting.
One is against the law and the other wasn't. Can't blame the guy for taking advantage of politicians writing crappy legislation. After all corporations and politicians do it all the time and even lobby for it.
As for the moral side of thing that is very presumptuous of you to assume that yours and his morals are the same and not very inclusive.
You're sounding more and more like a Republican all the time. First you started talking about not wasting taxpayer money, now you are talking about morals. Maybe you found that resting place for your soul after all.
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"I am neither especially clever nor especially gifted. I am only very, very curious.” – Albert Einstein
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Thank you!Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:02 amWhat law? There is no law mentioned in the article and if there was one. Charge him, if not see my previous post about Missouri.
As for the moral side of thing that is very presumptuous of you to assume that yours and his morals are the same and not very inclusive.
You're sounding more and more like a Republican all the time. First you started talking about not wasting taxpayer money, now you are talking about morals. Maybe you found that resting place for your soul after all.![]()
Republicans have made me moralistic I guess. We can judge actions without them being illegal, no?
(Speaking of religiosity…This is where the - both sides do it -argument becomes a religion. A bankrupt one at that.
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In the past yes. But not any more. It is my way or the highway!kalm wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:03 amThank you!Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:02 am
What law? There is no law mentioned in the article and if there was one. Charge him, if not see my previous post about Missouri.
As for the moral side of thing that is very presumptuous of you to assume that yours and his morals are the same and not very inclusive.
You're sounding more and more like a Republican all the time. First you started talking about not wasting taxpayer money, now you are talking about morals. Maybe you found that resting place for your soul after all.![]()
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Republicans have made me moralistic I guess. We can judge actions without them being illegal, no?
(Speaking of religiosity…This is where the - both sides do it -argument becomes a religion. A bankrupt one at that.)
But in all seriousness, I agree. Dogma is never a good thing.
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"I am neither especially clever nor especially gifted. I am only very, very curious.” – Albert Einstein
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” - G. Michael Hopf
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Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:09 amIn the past yes. But not any more. It is my way or the highway!
But in all seriousness, I agree. Dogma is never a good thing.
That’s the thing. We’re so damn attached to political tribalism and/or where we fit on the political spectrum (left right AND middle) we’ve seemingly lost our way when it comes to advocation of doing the right thing.
I know I’ve been guilty of this.
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You can self identify however you like buttercup.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
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See? I’m already converting you!
Fucking lib…
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Review my posting history, I believe I've long identified as a classical liberal.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
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MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qult qonspiracy theories since 2015.
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So the ends of the classical liberal spectrum range from 88 on the right and Kalm on the left?
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“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” - G. Michael Hopf
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Yes…from Spinoza to Paine…or something like that.Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:54 pmSo the ends of the classical liberal spectrum range from 88 on the right and Kalm on the left?
I’m simply a more evolved version of ‘88
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Just because the Amphicar evolved from a car and a boat, does not make it anything less than just a curiosity and something that does neither job well.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:35 pmYes…from Spinoza to Paine…or something like that.Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:54 pm
So the ends of the classical liberal spectrum range from 88 on the right and Kalm on the left?
I’m simply a more evolved version of ‘88
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"I am neither especially clever nor especially gifted. I am only very, very curious.” – Albert Einstein
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Just because you krauts couldn’t make it work…Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:50 pmJust because the Amphicar evolved from a car and a boat, does not make it anything less than just a curiosity and something that does neither job well.![]()
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kalm wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:58 pmJust because you krauts couldn’t make it work…Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:50 pm
Just because the Amphicar evolved from a car and a boat, does not make it anything less than just a curiosity and something that does neither job well.![]()
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Even we know when to shelve a project and put it in a museum.
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Saw an older IH for sale along the I-94 on the way to the SIU game. Just a glance, somewhere beyond St Cloud. Probably covered in snow now.Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:20 pm
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Thanks! I will let the brother know as he is coming though there this weekend.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:37 pmSaw an older IH for sale along the I-94 on the way to the SIU game. Just a glance, somewhere beyond St Cloud. Probably covered in snow now.Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:20 pm
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Some good news about why successive immunizations work and gain efficacy.
“Every dose of the vaccine triggers another round of antibody evolution within the immune system. It seeks out better antibodies that attach themselves more firmly to the virus. It's a process called affinity maturation.
"Your antibodies are a better fit as time goes on, they are getting fancier and more sophisticated," said Prof Altmann.
If the antibodies are able to bind more tightly to the coronavirus then it will be harder for Omicron's mutations to help it wriggle free. And while the new variant is heavily mutated, it is still the same fundamental virus and has parts that have not changed at all.
Prof Charles Bangham, from Imperial, said: "You get more of them, the concentration in the blood increases and we don't know how long this is going to last, but the more times you're vaccinated the longer-lasting the immune memory is."
https://bbc.in/33gp7c7?fbclid=IwAR06D0K ... nDC9Wr2zAE
“Every dose of the vaccine triggers another round of antibody evolution within the immune system. It seeks out better antibodies that attach themselves more firmly to the virus. It's a process called affinity maturation.
"Your antibodies are a better fit as time goes on, they are getting fancier and more sophisticated," said Prof Altmann.
If the antibodies are able to bind more tightly to the coronavirus then it will be harder for Omicron's mutations to help it wriggle free. And while the new variant is heavily mutated, it is still the same fundamental virus and has parts that have not changed at all.
Prof Charles Bangham, from Imperial, said: "You get more of them, the concentration in the blood increases and we don't know how long this is going to last, but the more times you're vaccinated the longer-lasting the immune memory is."
https://bbc.in/33gp7c7?fbclid=IwAR06D0K ... nDC9Wr2zAE
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Begs the question then why we aren't advising people to get boosters every month now. If more is better how come we took almost a year to advise people get an additional booster shot? Why aren't we advising people to get as many booster shots now as they can schedule?kalm wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:36 am Some good news about why successive immunizations work and gain efficacy.
“Every dose of the vaccine triggers another round of antibody evolution within the immune system. It seeks out better antibodies that attach themselves more firmly to the virus. It's a process called affinity maturation.
"Your antibodies are a better fit as time goes on, they are getting fancier and more sophisticated," said Prof Altmann.
If the antibodies are able to bind more tightly to the coronavirus then it will be harder for Omicron's mutations to help it wriggle free. And while the new variant is heavily mutated, it is still the same fundamental virus and has parts that have not changed at all.
Prof Charles Bangham, from Imperial, said: "You get more of them, the concentration in the blood increases and we don't know how long this is going to last, but the more times you're vaccinated the longer-lasting the immune memory is."
https://bbc.in/33gp7c7?fbclid=IwAR06D0K ... nDC9Wr2zAE
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GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:49 amBegs the question then why we aren't advising people to get boosters every month now. If more is better how come we took almost a year to advise people get an additional booster shot? Why aren't we advising people to get as many booster shots now as they can schedule?kalm wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:36 am Some good news about why successive immunizations work and gain efficacy.
“Every dose of the vaccine triggers another round of antibody evolution within the immune system. It seeks out better antibodies that attach themselves more firmly to the virus. It's a process called affinity maturation.
"Your antibodies are a better fit as time goes on, they are getting fancier and more sophisticated," said Prof Altmann.
If the antibodies are able to bind more tightly to the coronavirus then it will be harder for Omicron's mutations to help it wriggle free. And while the new variant is heavily mutated, it is still the same fundamental virus and has parts that have not changed at all.
Prof Charles Bangham, from Imperial, said: "You get more of them, the concentration in the blood increases and we don't know how long this is going to last, but the more times you're vaccinated the longer-lasting the immune memory is."
https://bbc.in/33gp7c7?fbclid=IwAR06D0K ... nDC9Wr2zAE![]()
We started the jabs almost exactly a year ago. Then there’s that whole thing about time and studying efficacy on a broader scale than trials, and how long the protection lasts. And why would you need multiple booster shots immediately if the protection lasts months?



