The Ukraine Crisis

[BDKJMU]

Yep. Polish vodka and Ukrainian porn will have to suffice.

In solidarity all across North America.
Russian vodka pulled from shelves in US, Canada bars, liquor stores: ‘Every small thing makes a difference’
https://www.foxnews.com/us/russian-vodk ... es-shelves

No more Russian vodka in PA.

[BDKJMU]

NY Times: This much media coverage of the Russian invasion of Ukraine is racist, because Ukranians are white.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/nyt-journ ... ial-biases

[CID1990]

NY Times: This much media coverage of the Russian invasion of Ukraine is racist, because Ukranians are white.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/nyt-journ ... ial-biases

“She followed up with an additional tweet that it was "a geopolitical fiction to separate [Europe] from Asia" so that an invasion can be "a dog whistle to tell us we should care because they are like us."


So, a lot like… “If I had a son he would look like Trayvon.”


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[Skjellyfetti]

[SDHornet]

[SDHornet]

My guess is China will make a run at this.

[89Hen]

More trustworthy that Matt Taibbi.

Because you like what she says now?

Attack the source. Shame on you.

[∞∞∞]

Really bad map. Here's a live map of the situation I've been following:

https://liveuamap.com/

[SuperHornet]

We've missed you, Trip. Hope you're doing well.

[Skjellyfetti]

I'd be pretty skeptical of that twitter account.

45k Ukrainian troops surrounded would mean Zelenskyy turning himself over for denazification. No one else is reporting that.

[Skjellyfetti]

[SDHornet]

I'd be pretty skeptical of that twitter account.

45k Ukrainian troops surrounded would mean Zelenskyy turning himself over for denazification. No one else is reporting that.

Yeah I have no idea how any of this info is vetted. I do question why we aren't seeing high def vids of fire fights, battles, etc. Unless maybe they are on other feeds I don't get.

Here is another account by some foreign policy analyst. Apparently there is a armor column 800 vehicles deep rolling on Kyiv, and he thinks anywhere from half to a third of the troops from the Russian buildup yet to engage.

Good stuff on the talk of ousting Putin (if Ukraine holds on) making the situation with Russia much more volatile.

[SDHornet]

Really bad map. Here's a live map of the situation I've been following:

https://liveuamap.com/

[Ibanez]

Really - Biden is the reason that Vlad Putin is invading Ukraine right now? C'mon. He chose to go during the presidency of a pro-NATO President vs one who praises him and is for weaking NATO? Where's the blame on all of NATO and the EU?

If NATO countries to paid more for their defense, which is what Trump was browbeating them to do, that would strengthen NATO.

Yeah - how’d that tough guy routine work out?


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[Ibanez]

Yep. Polish vodka and Ukrainian porn will have to suffice.

In solidarity all across North America.
Russian vodka pulled from shelves in US, Canada bars, liquor stores: ‘Every small thing makes a difference’
https://www.foxnews.com/us/russian-vodk ... es-shelves

Seems like a pyrrhic victory. What's next Kyiv Mules instead of Moscow Mules?


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[SDHornet]

If NATO countries to paid more for their defense, which is what Trump was browbeating them to do, that would strengthen NATO.

Yeah - how’d that tough guy routine work out?


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I don't recall Trump making Ukraine joining NATO part of his platform...after all, the Biden admins goal of getting Ukraine into NATO played a large part in this Russian invasion, no?

[SDHornet]

Belarus joining the fray.

[Skjellyfetti]

I'd be pretty skeptical of that twitter account.

45k Ukrainian troops surrounded would mean Zelenskyy turning himself over for denazification. No one else is reporting that.

Yeah I have no idea how any of this info is vetted. I do question why we aren't seeing high def vids of fire fights, battles, etc. Unless maybe they are on other feeds I don't get.

Here is another account by some foreign policy analyst. Apparently there is a armor column 800 vehicles deep rolling on Kyiv, and he thinks anywhere from half to a third of the troops from the Russian buildup yet to engage.

Good stuff on the talk of ousting Putin (if Ukraine holds on) making the situation with Russia much more volatile.

The "foreign policy analyst" has no foreign policy expertise.

Seems he runs the defunct Factcheck.net out of Moscow.


Kinda weird how he also cites that sketchy @miladvisor twitter account in his thread.

Hmmm

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If NATO countries to paid more for their defense, which is what Trump was browbeating them to do, that would strengthen NATO.

Yeah - how’d that tough guy routine work out?


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The first impeachment was literally because of Trump abusing his power and withholding 400 million from Ukraine. He also tried to extort Zelensky, threatened to pull the US out of NATO, and has now praised Putin twice since the conflict started; the man is definitely a Russian asset, whether he understands it or not. I wonder how much the sanctions are going to hurt Trump too.

Anyway, Putin certainly united the West in no way I've seen in my lifetime. It's wishful thinking, but I hope the sanctions and Ukrainians put enough hurt that his Presidency falls. The ordinary people of Russia certainly deserve better.

Or maybe by next week we're rebuilding civilization.

[SDHornet]

Yeah - how’d that tough guy routine work out?


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The first impeachment was literally because of Trump abusing his power and withholding 400 million from Ukraine. He also tried to extort Zelensky, threatened to pull the US out of NATO, and has now praised Putin twice since the conflict started; the man is definitely a Russian asset, whether he understands it or not. I wonder how much the sanctions are going to hurt Trump too.

Anyway, Putin certainly united the West in no way I've seen in my lifetime. It's wishful thinking, but I hope the sanctions and Ukrainians put enough hurt that his Presidency falls. The ordinary people of Russia certainly deserve better.

Or maybe by next week we're rebuilding civilization.

Oh look, more deflection from Bidens failure in Ukraine.

[SDHornet]

Yeah I have no idea how any of this info is vetted. I do question why we aren't seeing high def vids of fire fights, battles, etc. Unless maybe they are on other feeds I don't get.

Here is another account by some foreign policy analyst. Apparently there is a armor column 800 vehicles deep rolling on Kyiv, and he thinks anywhere from half to a third of the troops from the Russian buildup yet to engage.

Good stuff on the talk of ousting Putin (if Ukraine holds on) making the situation with Russia much more volatile.

The "foreign policy analyst" has no foreign policy expertise.

Seems he runs the defunct Factcheck.net out of Moscow.


Kinda weird how he also cites that sketchy @miladvisor twitter account in his thread.

Hmmm

Can't be any worse than all the bullshit you constantly posted in your Trump Russia thread.

I'm hoping Ukraine can pull one out of the hat and hold of Russia, but I'm not holding my breath on this. If the theory that Russia has been using the "B Team" so far hold any truth, then this can get even more ugly real quick.

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The first impeachment was literally because of Trump abusing his power and withholding 400 million from Ukraine. He also tried to extort Zelensky, threatened to pull the US out of NATO, and has now praised Putin twice since the conflict started; the man is definitely a Russian asset, whether he understands it or not. I wonder how much the sanctions are going to hurt Trump too.

Anyway, Putin certainly united the West in no way I've seen in my lifetime. It's wishful thinking, but I hope the sanctions and Ukrainians put enough hurt that his Presidency falls. The ordinary people of Russia certainly deserve better.

Or maybe by next week we're rebuilding civilization.

Oh look, more deflection from Bidens failure in Ukraine.

The US lead the charge to remove Russia from SWIFT after other nations were hesitant. We've also lead the charge on other sanctions, continue to supply the Ukraine with monetary aid, we're supplying the EU with financial aid which they're turning around and sending to Ukraine as military aid, we're sending troops to protect the eastern flank of NATO, sent people to help at the border, and we're opening the US to refugees.

What else is there to do? Do you want to go to war with Russia?

The only people at fault here are Putin and his cronies.

[AZGrizFan]

If NATO countries to paid more for their defense, which is what Trump was browbeating them to do, that would strengthen NATO.

Yeah - how’d that tough guy routine work out?


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Well not very well, because they chose not to listen to him. Pretty simple, really.

[SDHornet]

Oh look, more deflection from Bidens failure in Ukraine.

The US lead the charge to remove Russia from SWIFT after other nations were hesitant. We've also lead the charge on other sanctions, continue to supply the Ukraine with monetary aid, we're supplying the EU with financial aid which they're turning around and sending to Ukraine as military aid, we're sending troops to protect the eastern flank of NATO, sent people to help at the border, and we're opening the US to refugees.

What else is there to do? Do you want to go to war with Russia?

The only people at fault here are Putin and his cronies.

No we shouldn't go to war with Russia, but it looks like that ship has sailed. Biden's foreign policy wonks that were responsible for Crimea getting eaten in 2014 implemented the same policy failures (by the same people) that have resulted in the rest of Ukraine getting eaten. But yeah those battle hardened NATO countries are really going to stop Putin...and let's keep throwing away more money on this.

Regarding sanctions, have they sanctioned Russian oil yet? Or they waiting for all of Ukraine to fall before they make that move?

[SDHornet]

I mean they already told Biden to pound sand regarding pumping more oil, so why not stick it to him again.