Team Trump v/s Everyone

[Caribbean Hen]

Reality show…. Put em in a Skiff and set em adrift in the Sargasso Sea with nothing but a spork ….

FYP

I like the Sargasso Sea reference but …. spork?

[Caribbean Hen]

Reality show…. Put em in a Skiff and set em adrift in the Sargasso Sea with nothing but a spork ….

FYP

I like the Sargasso Sea reference but …. spork?

[UNI88]

FYP

I like the Sargasso Sea reference but …. spork?

A hybrid fork/spoon and typical cafeteria implement:

[Caribbean Hen]

I like the Sargasso Sea reference but …. spork?

A hybrid fork/spoon and typical cafeteria implement:

Right… I’m just not seeing how that utinsel fits into a drifting skiff with no food

[UNI88]

A hybrid fork/spoon and typical cafeteria implement:

Right… I’m just not seeing how that utinsel fits into a drifting skiff with no food

It will be the one weapon on the skiff.

[Caribbean Hen]

Right… I’m just not seeing how that utinsel fits into a drifting skiff with no food

It will be the one weapon on the skiff.

And used by the survivor to eat the dead carcass of the loser which only ensures a long gruesome death for the winner

[UNI88]

It will be the one weapon on the skiff.

And used by the survivor to eat the dead carcass of the loser which only ensures a long gruesome death for the winner

Now you're getting it. It would be ratings gold.

[kalm]

[houndawg]

MAGA folk donating to a good cause...

[BDKJMU]

Summed up quite well.

…The subtext of Trump’s rage, aside from the outrageous monetary size of the defamation ruling, is that he was facing—and angered—a leftwing claimant, a quite hostile leftwing judge, and a leftwing New York jury…..

…..The E. Jean Carroll case is the most baffling of all five. She, the alleged victim, did not remember even the year in which the purported sexual assault took place, nearly three decades ago. Observers have pointed out dozens of inconsistencies in her story.

It was never clear what were the preliminaries that supposedly (Trump denies meeting her) led both, allegedly, willingly to retreat together to a department store dressing room, where during normal business hours the alleged violence took place.

Moreover, the sexual assault complaint came forward decades post facto—and only after Trump was running for and then president.

Carroll eventually sued him for battery, but well after the statute of limitations had expired and thus the case seemed defunct.

Her claims of defamation injuries arise from being fired from her advice column job at ELLE magazine.

She claimed that Trump’s sharp denials and ad hominem retorts led to her career ruin. But the loss for anyone of a column at 76 does not seem such a rare occurrence, and the absence of a salaried job in one’s late seventies for four years does not seem to equate to a $83 million hit.

And note the allegation that her dispute with Trump led to her firing was strongly denied by the very magazine that cut her loose.

But then another strange thing happened. In 2022, a new law (“The Adult Survivors Act”) was passed in the New York legislature. It also post facto established a twelve-month window (beginning six months from the signing of bill) that permitted survivors of long ago alleged sexual assaults suddenly to sue the accused long-ago perpetrator—regardless of the previous statute of limitations.

That unexpected opening suddenly gave Carroll’s prior unsuccessful efforts a rebirth. And she quickly refiled with the help of arch-Trump hating billionaire Hoffman.

Yet the bill may have been introduced with Trump particularly in mind—given the legislator who introduced it, Brad Hoylman-Siga, was known as another Trump antagonist.

More interestingly, he had earlier introduced and had passed another Trump-targeted bill. That “TRUST” act had empowered particular federal Congressional committees to have access to the New York State once sealed tax returns of high-ranking government officials—such as Trump.

That bill’s generally agreed subtext was a green light for anti-Trump members of Congress to obtain legal access to Donald J. Trump's tax returns.

So there is an eerie feeling that the New York legislature may have abruptly passed legislation that was aimed at the past conduct of Donald Trump but only after he entered the political arena.…

[BDKJMU]

[BDKJMU]

Lol you are naïve..

So you don’t think he sexually assaulted Carol? Despite his deposition and grab them by the pussy comments?

To definitively answer which I didn’t last May, I don’t believe for a NY minute Trump sexually assaulted her.
-NY State passed special law that greatly extended the statute of limitations so Trump could be sued.
-Her case by bankrolled by a major uber wealthy liberal democrat donor
-She couldn’t even remember the year it happened.
-Observers have pointed out dozens of inconsistencies in her story.
-She waited decades to bring her case, only after Trump was running for POTUS.
-Trump ordered to pay 83 million in defamatiom for publicly defending himself: for saying he didn’t do it and calling her a liar and a kook.
-The amount, and maybe the whole case, ultimately won’t stand on appeal.

Yes, a majority of this democrat NYC jury with a trial presided over by a liberal democrat Trump hating judge found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. I believe this same judge and jury would have found Justice Kavanaugh civily liable for sexually assaulting that Ballsy Ford woman.. And then if Kavanaugh had publicly came out and said he didn’t do it, she’s a liar and a kook, would have ruled against him in a defamation case and ordered him to pay some ridiculous amount of millions for defamation.

[BDKJMU]

The NY so called ‘Fraud’ case is a complete joke. 100% won’t stand on appeal.

Even the left leaning AP, no fan of Trump, says this is garbage:

Dissolving Trump’s business empire would stand apart in history of NY fraud law

An Associated Press analysis of nearly 70 years of civil cases under the law showed that such a penalty has only been imposed a dozen previous times, and Trump’s case stands apart in a significant way: It’s the only big business found that was threatened with a shutdown without a showing of obvious victims and major losses.

Lawyers for the state in Trump’s monthslong civil trial have argued that the principles of fair play in business alone are enough to justify a harsh penalty, but even they aren’t calling for the prospect of liquidation of his businesses and properties raised by a judge. And some legal experts worry that if the judge goes out of his way to punish the former president with that worst-case scenario, it could make it easier for courts to wipe out companies in the future.

“This is a basically a death penalty for a business,” said Columbia University law professor Eric Talley. “Is he getting his just desserts because of the fraud, or because people don’t like him?”

AP’s review of nearly 150 reported cases since New York’s “repeated fraud” statute was passed in 1956 showed that nearly every previous time a company was taken away, victims and losses were key factors. Customers had lost money or bought defective products or never received services ordered, leaving them cheated and angry.

What’s more, businesses were taken over almost always as a last resort to stop a fraud in progress and protect potential victims. They included a phony psychologist who sold dubious treatments, a fake lawyer who sold false claims he could get students into law school, and businessmen who marketed financial advice but instead swindled people out of their home deeds…..

https://apnews.com/article/trump-fraud- ... a2f9a9b689

[BDKJMU]

Someone’s lawyer isn’t giving good legal advice, or needs to do a better job controlling their client..

[kalm]

Gee…why on earth did he lose? Must have been the liberal judge and jury.

[bobbythekidd]

1. NY State passed special law that greatly extended the statute of limitations so Trump could be sued.
2. Her case by bankrolled by a major uber wealthy liberal democrat donor
3. She couldn’t even remember the year it happened.
4. Observers have pointed out dozens of inconsistencies in her story.
5. She waited decades to bring her case, only after Trump was running for POTUS.
6. Trump ordered to pay 83 million in defamatiom for publicly defending himself: for saying he didn’t do it and calling her a liar and a kook.
7. The amount, and maybe the whole case, ultimately won’t stand on appeal.

1. NY passed a law to protect women that have been a victim of sexual assault/rape. That's not a bad thing and will help 100's of women realize justice.
Or maybe you support rapists? (that's rhetorical, Trump is an adjudicated rapist)

2. Don't know about that, and it may be true. I'm open to believing that. Isn't it great that someone of the elite class is willing to stand up for and protect victims even if they are from a lower rung of society?

3. I can't remember exactly what year many of my most precocious memories happened. I can get close to the year, but that in no way means they didn't happen. I remember the event, but could care less about the date. You know you have similar recollections.

4. OK. See number 3.

5. OK see Number 1.

6. Let me more accurately phrase your post: Trump has been ordered to pay 83 million in defamation for publicly, and repeatedly defaming Ms. Carrol. This continued after he was warned not to engage in this behavior and even after he was standing trial for this defamatory behavior. He also said he didn’t do it, in direct violation of the judges orders not to say that. And further defaming her and calling her a liar and a kook.

7. The amount is always in question, given the guidelines of the case, they are within the tolerances. This case (it's actually two cases) the first established his guilt and punishment. The second established his additional monetary damages because he continued to defame her.
My uneducated, but well informed guess is, the charge sticks, the award is reduced. The appeal is filed, but the bond is paid in cash from Trump Org., in violation of the receivership, and that results in another charge.
After all. who on this planet would loan this guy a dime at this point?

[BDKJMU]

1. NY State passed special law that greatly extended the statute of limitations so Trump could be sued.
2. Her case by bankrolled by a major uber wealthy liberal democrat donor
3. She couldn’t even remember the year it happened.
4. Observers have pointed out dozens of inconsistencies in her story.
5. She waited decades to bring her case, only after Trump was running for POTUS.
6. Trump ordered to pay 83 million in defamatiom for publicly defending himself: for saying he didn’t do it and calling her a liar and a kook.
7. The amount, and maybe the whole case, ultimately won’t stand on appeal.

1. NY passed a law to protect women that have been a victim of sexual assault/rape. That's not a bad thing and will help 100's of women realize justice.
Or maybe you support rapists? (that's rhetorical, Trump is an adjudicated rapist)

3. I can't remember exactly what year many of my most precocious memories happened. I can get close to the year, but that in no way means they didn't happen. I remember the event, but could care less about the date. You know you have similar recollections.

1. Uh no, NY passed a law to greatly extend the statute of limitations nearly 4 decades after the alleged incident to target Trump when he was running for POTUS. There should be a statute of limitations outside of murder. But apparently you think 30 years isn’t enough time to bring a rape allegation.

Let me guess- you believe Kavanaugh raped the Ballsy Ford woman.

3. BS- if something tramatic like that actually happened you would at least remember the year it happened unless you were becoming demented like Biden, had Alzheimers, or suffered some type of brain injury, or substance abuse issues. I can remember the exact year all my major life events happened, and would certainly remember the year, if not the exact date, of a violent or traumatic event. Most people would be the same, especially given the time to think about it.

[kalm]

1. NY passed a law to protect women that have been a victim of sexual assault/rape. That's not a bad thing and will help 100's of women realize justice.
Or maybe you support rapists? (that's rhetorical, Trump is an adjudicated rapist)

3. I can't remember exactly what year many of my most precocious memories happened. I can get close to the year, but that in no way means they didn't happen. I remember the event, but could care less about the date. You know you have similar recollections.

1. Uh no, NY passed a law to greatly extend the statute of limitations nearly 4 decades after the alleged incident to target Trump when he was running for POTUS.

Let me guess- you believe Kavanaugh raped the Ballsy Ford woman.

3. BS- if something tramatic like that actually happened you would at least remember the year it happened unless you were becoming demented like Biden, had Alzheimers, or suffered some type of brain injury, or substance abuse issues. I can remember the exact year all my major life events happened, and would certainly remember the year, if not the exact date, of a violent or traumatic event. Most people would be the same, especially given the time to think about it.

Not everyone pays attention to dates. Some people want to forget and suppress details over traumatic events. Or wait until you’re 80.

Not everyone has a memory like Abe Simpson.

[houndawg]

1. NY passed a law to protect women that have been a victim of sexual assault/rape. That's not a bad thing and will help 100's of women realize justice.
Or maybe you support rapists? (that's rhetorical, Trump is an adjudicated rapist)

3. I can't remember exactly what year many of my most precocious memories happened. I can get close to the year, but that in no way means they didn't happen. I remember the event, but could care less about the date. You know you have similar recollections.

1. Uh no, NY passed a law to greatly extend the statute of limitations nearly 4 decades after the alleged incident to target Trump when he was running for POTUS. There should be a statute of limitations outside of murder. But apparently you think 30 years isn’t enough time to bring a rape allegation.

Let me guess- you believe Kavanaugh raped the Ballsy Ford woman.

3. BS- if something tramatic like that actually happened you would at least remember the year it happened unless you were becoming demented like Biden, had Alzheimers, or suffered some type of brain injury, or substance abuse issues. I can remember the exact year all my major life events happened, and would certainly remember the year, if not the exact date, of a violent or traumatic event. Most people would be the same, especially given the time to think about it.

Could of happened, he did spend a lot of time blackout drunk after all...

[UNI88]

Yahoo News/YouGov poll: 51% of voters say convicting Trump of a ‘serious crime’ would be a ‘fair outcome’

Expectations about electability change as well. Right now, 45% of Americans believe Trump has the best chance of winning in November, compared to just 37% for Biden.

But in a scenario where Trump is convicted of a serious crime, those numbers flip to 39% for Biden vs. 35% for Trump — a 10-point decline for the former president that is driven almost entirely by Republicans (-15 points, to 70%) and independents (-9 points, to 37%).

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[BDKJMU]

DC trial postponed as expected. DC Circuit 3 judge panel has to rule on Trump immunity.
https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/ar ... sion-trial
If they rule against Trump then would be appealed to full DC circuit. If they ruled against Trumo would be appeaed to SCOTUS, which might get to it in June. So no way a trial could be started until after July 4 at the earliest, maybe Aug. 2-3 month trial. Then you run up against the Justice Dept 60-day rule which requires federal prosecutors to delay public actions during the final stages of an election to avoid influencing the election. But with Trump they maybe say the hell with it, Orange Man Bad.

Everyone knows the NY trial is a joke, the GA trial has fallen apart as Fanni Willis is under investigation for banging the special prosecutor, and the FL trial isn’t likely for a conviction. In the left’s lawfare against Trump, the DC trial is their best chance at a conviction before the election.

[SeattleGriz]

Fani admits affair.

[houndawg]

DC trial postponed as expected. DC Circuit 3 judge panel has to rule on Trump immunity.
https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/ar ... sion-trial
If they rule against Trump then would be appealed to full DC circuit. If they ruled against Trumo would be appeaed to SCOTUS, which might get to it in June. So no way a trial could be started until after July 4 at the earliest, maybe Aug. 2-3 month trial. Then you run up against the Justice Dept 60-day rule which requires federal prosecutors to delay public actions during the final stages of an election to avoid influencing the election. But with Trump they maybe say the hell with it, Orange Man Bad.

Everyone knows the NY trial is a joke, the GA trial has fallen apart as Fanni Willis is under investigation for banging the special prosecutor, and the FL trial isn’t likely for a conviction. In the left’s lawfare against Trump, the DC trial is their best chance at a conviction before the election.

Either the Law applies to everybody or it doesn't - this year we find out.

[houndawg]

Fani admits affair.

Give us the details, SG, this should be right in your wheelhouse.

[SeattleGriz]

Fani admits affair.

Give us the details, SG, this should be right in your wheelhouse.

Is your Internet broken? Goofball Fani overpaid her under qualified and married lover to be a prosecutor, and then they went on trips together. Her stupider than her lover then used his wife's/joint credit card to pay for the trips. He even billed the White House even hours for trips to check in with Joey Rotten's staff. You simply cannot be anymore stupid than these two...well, you've shown that you can , but regardless, super stupid.

The best part is that she's a Soros "hire" and she's absolutely destroying her and the Dems reputation. Dems really had no hand in promoting her, because it was the outside money of Soros that got her elected, but the Dems reputation is tainted by association.