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Re: Trump vs Harris

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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:23 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:10 am

Anyone who is outraged that they called trump a fascist and had no problem with trump calling harris a Marxist, communist, fascist, socialist or vice versa is a snowflake and a hypocrite.


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Calling someone Hitler doesn’t equate to calling someone a Marxist. :dunce:

And the left took it beyond Trump to his supporters.
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Re: Trump vs Harris

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kalm wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:04 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 7:28 am

The economy was definitely #1. Immigration was a solid #2. Bigotry played a role for a small percentage. Was that small percentage enough to make a difference in the battleground states?


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It’s also messaging and media reach. Trump’s proposed policies risk further damage to the middle class and rising inflation. Dems starting abandoning the working class long ago. These chickens are coming home to roost in the form of a thriving economy on paper (see investor class, GDP, stock market) but not when it comes to cost of living and consumer spending.

“My portfolio is doing great!”

“I can barely afford eggs and bacon.”

The Dem establishment (the ones securing large dollar donations, calling the policy shots, and selecting candidates to support in primaries) is considered elitist. Right wing media (Fox, Iheartradio, podcasts, Sinclair) has effectively pushed this narrative and the Dems have done little to fight back against this image. Taylor Swift and Springsteen are nice stories but not enough to seriously move the needle.

Too many in the working class are still willing to believe that the prospects of high tariffs, tax cuts for the rich and corporations, massive deportation, and deregulation of everything from finance to public health to domestic oil production will magically trickle down eventually without negative effects to standard of living.

Neither establishment has answers for the working class. The R’s are just better selling their bullshit right now.
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Re: Trump vs Harris

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:10 am
kalm wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:04 am

It’s also messaging and media reach. Trump’s proposed policies risk further damage to the middle class and rising inflation. Dems starting abandoning the working class long ago. These chickens are coming home to roost in the form of a thriving economy on paper (see investor class, GDP, stock market) but not when it comes to cost of living and consumer spending.

“My portfolio is doing great!”

“I can barely afford eggs and bacon.”

The Dem establishment (the ones securing large dollar donations, calling the policy shots, and selecting candidates to support in primaries) is considered elitist. Right wing media (Fox, Iheartradio, podcasts, Sinclair) has effectively pushed this narrative and the Dems have done little to fight back against this image. Taylor Swift and Springsteen are nice stories but not enough to seriously move the needle.

Too many in the working class are still willing to believe that the prospects of high tariffs, tax cuts for the rich and corporations, massive deportation, and deregulation of everything from finance to public health to domestic oil production will magically trickle down eventually without negative effects to standard of living.

Neither establishment has answers for the working class. The R’s are just better selling their bullshit right now.
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Nope what? They’re not nice stories, or you agree they didn’t have much impact?
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kalm wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:12 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:10 am

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Nope
Nope what? They’re not nice stories, or you agree they didn’t have much impact?
both, two of the most overrated hucksters of all time :lol:
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Re: Trump vs Harris

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:24 am
kalm wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:12 am

Nope what? They’re not nice stories, or you agree they didn’t have much impact?
both, two of the most overrated hucksters of all time :lol:
I wasn’t talking about their music careers. But the irony of you complaining about hucksters. :lol:
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kalm wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:31 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:24 am

both, two of the most overrated hucksters of all time :lol:
I wasn’t talking about their music careers. But the irony of you complaining about hucksters. :lol:
the irony of you voting for the biggest huckster of all time in Joey Rotten... :lol: . what a mess Trump will be inheriting :nod:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:24 am
kalm wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:12 am
Nope what? They’re not nice stories, or you agree they didn’t have much impact?
both, two of the most overrated hucksters of all time :lol:
Paul McCartney and who else? :coffee:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:42 am
kalm wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:31 am

I wasn’t talking about their music careers. But the irony of you complaining about hucksters. :lol:
the irony of you voting for the biggest huckster of all time in Joey Rotten... :lol: . what a mess Trump will be inheriting :nod:
All politicians are hucksters. Some are clearly better at it than others (Trump, Pelosi, Rick Scott).

The irony that you’re blind to Trump and MAGA’s grift and who the real winners are…
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kalm wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:39 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:42 am

the irony of you voting for the biggest huckster of all time in Joey Rotten... :lol: . what a mess Trump will be inheriting :nod:
All politicians are hucksters. Some are clearly better at it than others (Trump, Pelosi, Rick Scott).

The irony that you’re blind to Trump and MAGA’s grift and who the real winners are…
I’m pretty good at picking winners

AGS pick em champ :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:35 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:24 am

both, two of the most overrated hucksters of all time :lol:
Paul McCartney and who else? :coffee:
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kalm wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:39 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:42 am

the irony of you voting for the biggest huckster of all time in Joey Rotten... :lol: . what a mess Trump will be inheriting :nod:
All politicians are hucksters. Some are clearly better at it than others (Trump, Pelosi, Rick Scott).

The irony that you’re blind to Trump and MAGA’s grift and who the real winners are…
The real winners will be Americans

I know that’s a strange concept for you
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Re: Trump vs Harris

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:24 am
kalm wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:39 am

All politicians are hucksters. Some are clearly better at it than others (Trump, Pelosi, Rick Scott).

The irony that you’re blind to Trump and MAGA’s grift and who the real winners are…
The real winners will be Americans

I know that’s a strange concept for you
There is data to disprove this.
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kalm wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:16 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:24 am

The real winners will be Americans

I know that’s a strange concept for you
There is data to disprove this.
you have a reputation for being biased and another 5 letter word that starts with a w
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:18 am
kalm wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:16 am

There is data to disprove this.
you have a reputation for being biased and another 5 letter word that starts with a w
Not my data, dummy. There’s 40 years of data to disprove neo-liberalism. Find a book or a non-biased article on economics or both and report back to me.
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Not sure on the veracity of the numbers but there’s some truth here.

There’s a bunch of Dem and never Trump political consultants that need to retire.
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Party of love still attacking Trump voters after telling them to respect the vote after Biden was elected. So much hate, let it go sheesh.
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kalm wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:47 am
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Not sure on the veracity of the numbers but there’s some truth here.

There’s a bunch of Dem and never Trump political consultants that need to retire.
I‘m sure the #s are off. But it goes to show $$$ doesn’t always buy an election.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:43 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:47 am

Not sure on the veracity of the numbers but there’s some truth here.

There’s a bunch of Dem and never Trump political consultants that need to retire.
I‘m sure the #s are off. But it goes to show $$$ doesn’t always buy an election.
It depends on how the donations are defined. And with Congress, $’s buy an incumbent’s re-election 90+% of the time.
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kalm wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:46 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:18 am

you have a reputation for being biased and another 5 letter word that starts with a w
Not my data, dummy. There’s 40 years of data to disprove neo-liberalism. Find a book or a non-biased article on economics or both and report back to me.
Noooo. Im talking about the American people that your post history shows you’re not really that fond of
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:40 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:46 am
Not my data, dummy. There’s 40 years of data to disprove neo-liberalism. Find a book or a non-biased article on economics or both and report back to me.
Noooo. Im talking about the American people that your post history shows you’re not really that fond of
Are the American people that kalm's post history shows he's not really that fond of more important then the "the American people that your post history shows you’re not really that fond of"? If yes, why?
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Re: Trump vs Harris

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:02 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:40 pm

Noooo. Im talking about the American people that your post history shows you’re not really that fond of
Are the American people that kalm's post history shows he's not really that fond of more important then the "the American people that your post history shows you’re not really that fond of"? If yes, why?
Harris lost by over 3million votes. How about you take your stupid questions and shove them up your ass. You didn't ask these questions in 2016. Hack!!
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